See full version: 1973 Cape Cod Shipbuilding 17 Catboat
A classic, indigenously American design, this Cape Cod Shipbuilding 17’ catboat is ready for someone looking to put some sweat equity into turning a modest investment into a $10-12,000 boat. A 1973 build designed by Charles Wittoltz, the 17 is a perfect weekending boat for a couple or a small family, with room for six in the cockpit and a gaff-rigged 220 sq foot sail that helps it keep pace with much bigger boats, especially when on a beam reach.
This photo shows the boat in its freshly rehabbed state - contact us for detailed photos of the current state of the boat. Boat is in Lake Bluff, one hour north of Chicago, and available for inspection 7 days a week with prior appointment. [links]
Rehabbed in 2009, this boat fell into disrepair when an unexpected death of the previous owner left it exposed to weather for a year in the middle of a cabin upgrade to an ash strip ceiling. The cabin will need a thorough cleaning and repainting, and the cabin sole will want to be replaced prior to being put back into service, but neither are particularly technical jobs. On the upside, it has a new Quantum (Thurston) sail with less than 20 hours use on it, a custom LoadRite trailer, and the option of adding a new Tohatsu LPG SailPro 5hp engine for $990 (less than dealer cost).
Equipment: 2014 Quantum sail Aluminum mast, spruce boom and gaff Harken running hardware LoadRite trailer [links]
Reducing centerboard helps with weather helm in two ways. It reduces the amount of the foil, which reduces the lift to windward, thus reducing the rolling moment from under the boat, effectively depowering the boat. I have seen some impressive footage of a Laser with full daggerboard being overpowered and hiked aggressively, and a second Laser on the same course with a bit of dagger board up, sailing flat and comfortably with not so much hiking. Of course, the board shouldn't be raised so much that significant leeway is induced. here
Anyway although never having sailed a Catboat, I understand they have notorious weather helm, and the logic as to why makes sense. I've also read that the way to combat that is to not always sail with the centerboard all the way down. Evidently cranking it up just a bit can reduce helm and doesn't sacrifice much on pointing.Well I'm wondering if the weather helm also applies to the boat I'm looking at, and if so, since there is no centerboard. how do you handle it. Have any of you experienced sailing one of these? more
I'm looking for my next project (about to sell a 74 Herreshoff Eagle I've worked on for two years) and am looking at a Cape Cod Shipbuilding 17 ft. Catboat. I was surprised to learn they actually have a fixed keel model in addition to the centerboard choice. I guess I have an affinity for Catboat like hulls as I went on a quest 20 years ago to find and buy a Legnos Mystic 30, and now the Eagle. Both could maybe be called Catboat wannabes! more
And secondly, on a centerboard which pivots down, lifting the board some also pivots the center of resistance aft with regards to the sail's center of effort, thus reducing the weather helm. It's kinda the opposite of raking the mast forward, which would be what you'd do while tuning a rig.
Also, I think that the reason a traditional-looking catboat has weather helm is because instead of using a higher aspect transom hung rudder, they use a low aspect transom hung "barn door" rudder. With that much rudder stretching aft of the pivot point, it will make for a very heavy helm feel. You can see the difference with a lifting rudder as you raise the blade. I've found a blade trailing aft just below the surface is almost un-steerable in my 15' daysailer. Also, when I rebuilt the headstock on my bigger boat, it tipped the blade just an inch or so aft, requiring me to re-set the rake of the mast to compensate. here
The Beetle Cat Boat Shop’s first venture into custom wood boats was a 28′ catboat designed by C.C. Hanley in 1917 and published in “The Rudder” magazine in 1919. The owner, Tim Fallon (a Beetle racer who lives to sail), had dreams of a big old catboat and began to realize that a large catboat project might be of historical significance as these indigenous boats are becoming an endangered species in the waters in and around Cape Cod.
The Hanley design caught Tim’s eye, he discussed his wishes with the Beetle Boat shop, and a plan was formed. Bill Sauerbrey joined Beetle at this time to take on the project and began lofting in July, 2004. John O’Donovan assisted during the construction of the hull. History was written each day and techniques that might have been lost were sought out and properly executed. April 17th, 2006 saw the launching of the first Hanley catboat in over 75 years. Her construction and appearance while sailing in today’s waters takes one back 100 years in time.
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Category Daysailer Sailboats
1957 Herreshoff Bullseye, We have to part with our beautifully restored 1957 Herreshoff Bullseye. Built by Cape Cod Shipbuilding, this molded fiberglass hull is a direct copy of a Herreshoff 12 1/2 and makes for a seaworthy full displacement keel boat with a handsome wine glass transom. Incredible vessel. All work has been completed by The Hinckley Company (can show invoices) including new Awlgrip paint, standing rigging, running rigging, cockpit cushions, full cockpit cover, deck hardware, deck paint, varnish, re-painting of mast, boom, replace all sheets, etc. To much to list as far as what has been done. Sitting on her own trailer with new bearings, wheels and hub assemblies. Ready to roll and sail. Asking $21,500. Will consider reasonable offers. $21500.00
16ft. Herreshoff Gemini fiberglass sailboat. This sailboat is inexcellant condition and has all of its original gelcoat finish. It was only dry sailed on the weekends in fresh water and stored covered inside during the winter. It comes with new sails and boom tent. The boat is fast and easy to sail and rig. It has two leeward boards tthat retract underneath the seats which gives you more room in the cockpit. You don't have to climb over a centeboard. The Shipmate trailer is also in excellant condition with buddy bearings and jackstand.
A 18 foot fiberglass Herreshoff Catboat built in 1974. Perfect daysailer or overnighter. Ready to go in the water.Trailer NOT included. Priced to sell at $7900 or best offer.Its a nice boat !
1996 Herreshoff Buzzards Bay Buzzards Bay 25 The Buzzards Bay 25 is one of the most admired designes of all time; her subtle curves and shapes have capitvated knowlegable sailors for nearly 100 years. No less impressive is the stunning performance and docile manners of great classic .Ask anyone who has sailed or competed with her sisterships and meet there owners. Price to sell at $98,000 and now a great value in a well maintained classic. "Eclipse" is cold molded, marconi rig edition, built by the talented Damien McLaughlin.Corp. She is in excellent condition and is highly recommended to those who seek an elegant fast classic day sailor.egattas.Unlike many competitors The BB 25 requires no sail changes and can be raced successfully with a small crew.mark This is a great value and is highly recommended. . [links]
Category Daysailer Sailboats