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Driving home I could not believe my eyes. I looked into the rearview mirror and reflected on how much $1200 can still buy these days. I had, in my younger years, drank up $1200 in a few months and this was something that would bring me so much joy and had, in my mind, the feeling of something concrete and definitive. Not the amorphous and abiguous feeling you get when you spend $1200 on booze or even on some piece of technology that is smaller than the stack of 20's you just handed over to purchase it. here
I guess I just got a "better deal" than you did! I got a Venture 17 for free today ;-) My neighbor is moving so gave me his. Now its not in as good of shape as yours (it hasn't been used in 10 years) but should clean up ok. We live on the Potomac and even have our own launch ramp BUT I have never sailed before so will have to approach this carefully and most likely enlist help of a skilled sailor. I'll let you know how it goes or maybe I'll just do a Blog as well ;-) Thanks for some great ideas/tips. [links]
I started searching locally with the intention of finding a project boat. Something for around $1000 that would probably require a lot of TLC but that would get me sailing before the end of the summer. I searched on eBay, the Post classifieds and everywhere I could think of and then I hit Craig's List's Boat classifieds. There I found a plethora of available craft but at that time, nothing I really felt like I could afford based on my restoration skills or lack there of. It dawned on me that a trip across state lines would not be so bad and I decided to check out CL West Virginia.
We sat down to transact the sale. No problems. He had everything in order and ready to go. After the papers were signed and everything was buttoned up he said, "so. you get a great boat in great condition for the price of a trailer." I agreed and replied by asking him if he was certain that he felt properly compensated. Not the thing to do in most cases but I did feel a little as if I was stealing this rig from him. here
I couldn't believe my luck! The boat looked in great shape and the sale price included sails, life jackets and cushions, cover, trailer, 6hp Johnson OB MOTOR, 2 fuel tanks, all new lines and rigging, berth cushions, fenders and a swim ladder. I requested more images assuming that problems with this transaction would appear in the images. These are what I recieved: more
2017-10-23 by: DR
Dear Shorty,
I enjoyed your remarks about the Venture 17. I bought one about 15 years ago, had quite a bit of work done on it, but never sailed it until last year. I like its stability with the heavy 4.5 foot swing keel. The cabin is pretty cramped, but it's great for storage, and since I sail alone pretty much and don't cook or sleep over night, that's no big problem. My first time out, I had the jib set upside down. Didn't sail to windward very well. Fortunately I had an anchor. read more more
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The MacGregor 26 has evolved from the original swing-keel version with tiller and a small outboard to the current daggerboard 26M model with a steering wheel and a big outboard. Along the way, the styling evolved from original models that looked more like traditional sailboats to the distinctive “Euro-powerboat” appearance of the 26M. People seem to love or hate this boat, with few in between.
MacGregor has kept the price of the 26M down by avoiding frills without sacrificing things that help a boat sail well. The mainsheet traveler, seldom found in trailer-sailors, helps the boat sail higher into the wind. The jib fairlead tracks, also rare in a boat like this, allowing for better adjustment of the shape of the jib, which is critical with a furling jib or when changing from one jib to another.
MacGregor has been building sailboats for forty years and claims to have sold more sailboats than any other manufacturer. With a focus on trailer able pocket cruisers, MacGregor developed the first water ballast system for their 26-footer in the late 1980s. here
Chutz, I remember when you were looking at this boat. Remember the photo's. You've done a lot of work on this boat, it looks good. How does she sail for you? Great photo's and good advice. Respect others, accept yourself, Steve P. [links]
Size of Boat Would Depend.
Ultimately, I'm really glad I bought this boat. It's coming along nicely. Of course I could rattle off a list of a thousand things I still need to do. I'm hoping to finish the cabin this weekend - I've replaced all of the woodwork, most of the standing rigging. The pictures on my site are actually from last year, I've finished the painting work (decks, and hull stripe) stripped and varnished all of the woodwork and added some additional comfort features. I'm still on the lookout of a set of cushions (I've collected old couch cushions which are very comfy and disposable - it's amazing how many people leave couches on the curb). I really did have a great sail last weekend on the Columbia. The wind was very spirited and consistant, and I chickened out a long time before the boat did. She sails fairly well, I'm realizing that the main needs some attention, I'm having a very hard time when close hauled, I just can't get enough sail tension to be effective. So I'm taking the main to a sail loft to see if it can be tightened up for another season. If not - it's time to replace it. It would probably help if I would only remember the $*#Price. It needs to be cheap, and pretty much ready to go. For reference, I gave $1200 for my 83 Mac 21 in pretty darn good basic condition. After rerigging, adding a motor, and general addition of necessary goodies - I am in $3600. The 17 would make a good daysailer for two or an overnighter for one. 21 is the minimum that I would now consider OK for two for a weekend. After the first year, we are now looking at 27+. Older MacGregor Sailboats are a completely different animal from the newer Powersailers. (Much better suited for sailing) Price and condition are the critical variables for a starter.amp;#* battens BEFORE I raise the main! I can also see the clear advantage of a mid-boom traveller, so that's my next investment. I made a solid mahogony winch board, so I'm going to bolt that down and add the traveller to it. This weekend, I'm going to stay home and re-wire the boat. I had to tear out all of the old electrics because the PO didn't believe in fuses and had everything straight wired with old light switches for everything (yes actual AC type lightswitches like in your house). I need to finish wiring before I can finish interior trim and lighting fixtures. So weather and wife permitting I'll hopefully get this done this weekend. .-=gp=-.
Yeah what Steve Said. I just saw a 1967 MacGregor 17" this weekend, I noticed that the hull is much deeper than my 21. My primary complain with the 21 is that there is insufficient headroom in the cabin (48 inches at best). Movement in the cabin is near impossible. The 17" seems to have more headroom - in fact it seems the 21 has the shallowest hull of the Venture family. Anyone else notice this - or is it just that someone elses boat always looks bigger?? I've been able to sleep in the 21, but that's about it. It isn't really usable as shelter but makes for good storage. I sure wouldn't want to have guests overnight unless they were under three feet tall. I bought my 1972 Venture 21 for $1200, and have put about $1500 + about 1000 hours into it since. Although the boat was functional when I bought it - except for the keel cable which snapped about two minutes after I launched it the first time. Also, check the trailer thoroughly - I wish I had, mine was badly bent due to some past trauma which the PO didn't mention. I've since replaced the trailer - but it was another big expense. I love the Venture series, and wouldn't trade mine (actually I would - for a catalina 27 - but no one's offered me that yet ;-). They are fairly easy to handle, pretty simple mechanically and pretty forgiving. For me it was a fairly inexpensive way to get back into sailing after 20 years. I've enjoyed it very much, and look forward to 2 weeks at Detroit lake in August. .-=gp=-. here
on the size of water you plan on doing most of your sailing. If you are sailing small inland lakes the 17 would be fine. Especially if you trailer to all and have shallow boat ramp areas. I think one of the main considerations on this mac is the condition of the keel, cable and winch, make sure they are in good order or you will have lots to do from the get-go! Sincerely, Brian [links]