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painge
18.06.2021 11:13:45

Charles Morgan was already well known as a designer of one particularly successful racer, 'Paper Tiger', when he started building another of his designs, the TIGER CUB, on his own. But it wasn't until 1965 when he joined forces with long time friend, Bruce Bidwell, and began to build the successful MORGAN 34. This was followed, most notably, by the MORGAN 24, 30, 41, and 45.
The OUT ISLAND 41, introduced in 1970, became legendary as a no-frills, center-cockpit standard, especially in the charter trade.
Charles Morgan's involvement in the company ended in 1972.
Since that time, the company was passed from one corporate entity to another, until it came into the hands of Catalina Yachts in 1984. Catalina continued with a few models, including the OUT ISLAND 41, before the Morgan name was retired.


splitpeamaster
20.05.2021 16:34:14

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AT-LOW
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kaspar
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woola20
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dconradcopelande
07.05.2021 18:57:54

OI 41 models prior to the Classic are differentiated by three-digit numbers: the earliest was the 413, the last was the 416, which was introduced in 1981 and featured a much larger sailplan. Many of the changes made in the intermediate 414 (1973-76) and 415 (1977-80) models involved relatively minor interior alterations. The most important changes were the introduction of a walk-through interior in 1974 and of a sloop rig as an alternative to the standard ketch rig in 1977.


BlackEye
30.04.2021 20:17:57

Many different variations of the OI 41 were created during a 20-year production run (1971-91) that ultimately saw the launching of some 1,100 boats. The biggest change came in 1986 after Catalina Yachts acquired Morgan Yachts and fundamentally reshaped the OI 41’s hull, replacing the full shoal keel and attached rudder with a somewhat deeper long fin keel and skeg-hung rudder. About 150 of these redesigned boats were built---they were branded (ironically) as the Out Island 41 Classic---and they are fundamentally superior to their predecessors. They sail much better, but the interior lay-out and appearance of the deck and topsides is much the same.


skinnyp83
17.05.2021 9:45:04

The through-bolted deck joint on boats built before 1975 is below the fat cove stripe under the sheer line and thus is vulnerable to damage from docks and Travelift slings. Later it was moved up to deck level where it belongs. Other areas to pay attention to are the main mast-step over the keel, which is iron and may cause the aluminum mast heel to corrode once the insulation between the two breaks down, and the tanks, which are polyethylene and are prone to fail over time. Because the tanks were originally installed with the deck off and are sized accordingly it is usually necessary to replace them with smaller tanks that can fit through the companionway. more


mgoodn2244
28.05.2021 17:08:06

Interior details vary quite a bit from model to model. Some forward staterooms have V-berths, some have overlapping over-and-under single berths. Most have dinette tables in the saloon, but some have fold-down bulkhead tables. Most have full-length settees in the saloon, but some have a pair of captain’s chairs on one side. And so on. Finish quality on older boats is apt to seem dated and a bit rough around the edges, but some old OIs have been remarkably well cared for, with thoroughly updated interiors and lots of new equipment on board. On the whole, however, interiors on the newer Classic boats seem fresher and more attractive. here


Kaporen
27.04.2021 3:43:02

As Barnacle Bill said, the vessel is an "Out Island". There is a vessel known as an Islander, but no Out Islander. The Out Island series was produced in lengths of 28,33,36,41,and 51. With their shoal draft and stays fitted to chain plates outside the hull, Their ability to point to windward is less than a performance designed boat, but despite Barnacle Bill's comments, I would not agree that any Out Island would require an engine start for tacking. Those that have difficulty tacking a boat with a keel contiguous with the rudder are often more accustomed to the pivoting capabilities of a fin keel design or they may be sailing with the headsail overpowering their main in light air. Certainly, the techniques for tacking a heavy displacement full keel vessel will not transfer from a light weight fin keel boat. Catalina's design of the Morgan Out Island "Classic" changed the keel design to more easily allow someone with less experience to tack these boats and they did improve some performance traits. As an owner living aboard and cruising 33' and 41' Morgan Out Islands from 1973 to present, I would draw attention to the following to look for when looking at an Out Island to purchase:


david1211
26.05.2021 22:17:42

1. Look of hairline cracks at the port/starboard seam of the rudder laminates that are a prelude to separation and failure. A rebuild and a fiberglass tabbing of the seam may be necessary.
2. Inspect the mast step for corrosion.
3. Inspect the back up plate for the headstay at the stemhead for corosion or separation.
4. Soft spots in the deck core are common due to water intrusion. This is a cosmetic, not a sructural problem, but a rigorous repair.
5. Be wary of any hull deck joint damage and separation on the older OI series where the hull-deck joint is at the rubrail rather than the less vulnerable toe rail. here


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