williamsanderson71
05.05.2021 3:36:24
Look at the other features, the 2 degree difference is not enough to matter.<br /><br />Whichever one you like more, don't let the 2 deg make the choice.
See full version: Deadrise Degree: 21 vs 19 best performance
Look at the other features, the 2 degree difference is not enough to matter.<br /><br />Whichever one you like more, don't let the 2 deg make the choice.
Re: Deadrise Degree: 21 vs 19 = best performance?
Welcome to iboats. <br /><br />Flatter bottom boats plane quicker, ride bumpier. 2 degrees ain't much difference. The two are such a dead-heat, the numbers will be awfully close. Savings in gas over the lifetime of one boat over the other would be in the hundred dollar range (if that). Pick the purtiest or the cheapest. The Larson may hold trade-in value better. But it's all such a toss-up . aw heck! Let the wife choose. THAT ould make a huge difference. Everything else is puny in comparison if it makes the wife happy! You'll be trading it for a boat with a 4.3 in a few years either way. <br /><br />By the way, lower numbers are flatter. The salesman has it backwards. The 19 dgegree is flatter and should plane faster and use less gas. 300# lighter would boost that as well. Beam and length also play important roles in how a hull performs. But you'll never really know unless you run the two side by side with identical motors and loads.
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With a shout. --The Greek word means a shout of command or encouragement, such as a captain gives to his soldiers, or a boatswain to his crew. It is not necessary to inquire what the command may be, or to whom issued, inasmuch as the word does not always imply any particular orders; nor who is represented as uttering it: the intention is only to convey the notion of the stirring noise, in the midst of which (for the original has "in," not "with") the Lord will descend. It is, however, somewhat particularised by what follows: two notes amid those sounds of mystery strike the ear--the archangel's voice, and the trump of God. Probably, therefore, the "shout of command" is uttered by the "leader of the angels;" and the trump (called "the trump of God" because used for God's purposes) is blown to summon the mustering hosts. In favour of supposing the Lord Himself to utter the cry, may be adduced John 5:25; but, on the other hand, it suits the dignity of the scene better to imagine the loud sound to come rather from one of the heralds of the great army. The preposition "in" is more effective than "with:" it calls attention to the long blast. (Comp. Exodus 19:19.)
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As time has progressed and the hull form has found its way into a more recreational application there has been a shift to maintain the soft ride while delivering some lateral stability and to reduce bow rise. The latter can be problematic when running in seas too “angry” to permit high speeds. It is dangerous when the operator cannot see over the bow – either when accelerating, or driving at reduced throttle in rough seas. It is for this reason the Hunt studio when designing the Southport bottom chose 22 degrees (not quite as sharp yet enough V to reduce slamming) for the aft section of the hull. As a result Southport Boats jump onto plane, and stay on plane at lower speeds – very desirable when the seas are sloppy. And with this slightly reduced angle the soft entry is preserved while delivering improved stability – both at rest when drifting over a bar or trolling for the big one. Of course the generous beam of a Southport adds to both stability and lift. [links]
The Southport ride comes from more than just the angle of the transom: as you may have guessed, the dead rise angle varies considerably across the length of the hull, and this is called “Variable Deadrise”. Check out our next post for an in depth explanation. [links]
Like all aspects of boat design, there is a tradeoff, and it is ultimately a matter of priorities that decide which hull design boat is right for the application. The deeper the V, the softer the reentry impact; however, the flatter the bottom the more stable. Early on the ideal established for high performance, the V shape, was popularized by C. Raymond Hunt when designing boats for offshore racing. The earliest example would be Moppie, the original carnation of the popular and iconic 31’ Bertram, which carried a deadrise of 24 + degrees. These boats wanted to “go fast” with little concern for driver comfort at anything less than full performance.
A very common number thrown around when comparing boats, especially Center Consoles, is the Deadrise Angle of the hull measured at the transom. Because most planing hulls when “on plane” ride on the aft 30-50% of the hull, the deadrise angle aft is critically important for stability and soft, level ride. But what is it exactly? Put quite simply, it is the angle between a horizontal plane and the hull surface. A boat with “a lot of deadrise” is a boat with a deeper, sharper V-shaped hull. All Southport hulls carry a 22 degree deadrise angle at the transom – 46 degrees at the bow, whereas a typical flats boat, for this example, might carry just 8 degrees of deadrise, or have a completely flat bottom is some cases (like certain “skiff” boats). For that style boat, a flat, low deadrise hull is ideal and highly desired to permit these “skinny water” boats to navigate in areas where the water is less than 8-inches deep, and effectively track the fish that live in those waters. But, taking these boats offshore or into any kind of sea much over 2-feet will result in a wet ride with lots of pounding.
Southports on the other hand, while not designed to traverse flats or exceptionally shallow areas, use that Deep-V to their advantage in open water. The V shape minimizes “slamming,” softens the entry and helps the boat track as if on rails. It is how the hull surface meets and treats the water. A flat bottom boat has less ability to efficiently channel the water away as it meets the boats hull, whereas a V shaped hull can cut through the water. more
Put quite simply, Deadrise is the angle between a horizontal plane and the hull surface. A boat with "a lot of deadrise" is a boat with a deeper, sharper V-shaped hull. All Southport hulls carry a 22 degree deadrise angle at the transom – 46 degrees at the bow.[links]
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