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Like the OE starter bolts, these starter bolts from ARP have a specific shank diameter and knurling to help position the starter, and keep it from moving when torque is applied. here
It was way back in 1912 when Charles Kettering developed the first electric self-starter. This new-fangled engine starter made it easy for men and women alike to start their horseless carriage, and would signal the end to hand cranking the engine to get your car running.
Most blocks come predrilled for use with either starter, which can lead to confusion.
Not only are there differences in the nose cones, but all is not equal when looking at the starter itself. Chevrolet developed two starters for use in different applications. One was a “standard-duty” starter, while the other was a “high-torque” starter. While the starters look basically the same, there are some external features that allow you to tell the difference. here
The bolt holes will be parallel to the crankshaft if your car uses a 153 -tooth flywheel/flexplate, and the bolt holes will be offset for 168-tooth flywheel/flexplate.
But kept looking and found an exact match at Auto Zombie so got that in, figuring the extra cost was minor for the piece of mind. Besides gear match and nose casting exact, length is same so I didn't have to make-shift the heat shield.
From everything I've seen the 9 and 11 tooth starters are interchangeable - but I'm like you, nervous, and would hate to see you have any problems. With that in mind I'd wait for some others to chime in, too. [links]
Don't seem right to me but before I put it in and risk breaking teeth on the flywheel, maybe someone more knowledgeable than I, (low bar to hurdle)can chime in. Thanks. here
Thanks, Richard. Saw your handle on alot of topics with good advice while wading thru a 500-result search looking for an old post on this subject with no luck. Figured if you had an answer it would be accurate. So thanks for the follow-up.
Got my failed gear-reduction starter out, '98 Tahoe 4-wd, and counted 11 teeth on the pinion. Ordered a rebuilt spec'd online (Advance) with 11 teeth and got home to find a 9-tooth pinion in the box, the one thing I forgot to check while at the counter.
Back to the shop and all in-stock starters had 9 teeth like the old direct-drives, even ones listed with 11. Knowledgeable counter guy and big fan of small block Chevy engines says using the 9-tooth will work fine 'cause they've adjusted the pinion dimensions. more
Just don't forget to put the bracket that holds the front of the starter on. [links]
It's Either the Straight Across bolt pattern.
Or.
The Staggered bolt pattern.
Or the starter bolts could snap.
Basically.
SBCs can have only 1 of 2 different starters,+ which starter is determned by the Block's drillings,+ the flywheel.
Whatever 1 you took Off. Put the Same bolt pattern back on,+ it'll Work.
hi there ok the one they try to sell to me look the same that my old starter is the Straight Across bolt pattern but like I sai the one was on the boat before is a 9 tooth starter and the new is 11 that will make a diference, Im asking because I work for automotive and for example for cars you cant use the 11 on the 9 tooth or aeither the 9 on the 11. here